In this episode of Holding Space, Dr. Christopher Barker takes a compassionate, science-grounded look at anxiety—what it is, why it exists, and how it can spiral out of control if we don’t change our relationship to it.

Drawing from clinical experience and insights shared at the Evolution of Psychotherapy conference, Dr. Barker explains how anxiety begins with a real-world trigger and moves through the brain’s fear center, the amygdala, activating the fight-or-flight response. Elevated heart rate, shortness of breath, chest tightness, and racing thoughts aren’t signs that something is “wrong”—they’re signs your nervous system is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

But when worry feeds on physical symptoms, anxiety can become self-perpetuating—creating a looping cycle that feels impossible to escape. Dr. Barker introduces a practical and empowering framework for interrupting the anxiety loop, reframing anxiety as a normal emotion rather than an enemy, and learning how to respond instead of react.

Using a memorable metaphor—“anxiety as a cult leader”—this episode explores why anxiety demands obedience, how avoidance keeps it powerful, and how skills from CBT, ACT, mindfulness, distress tolerance, and self-care can help you regain control.

This conversation is essential listening for anyone struggling with anxiety, panic symptoms, chronic worry, or the physical sensations that often accompany them—and for clinicians, caregivers, and anyone interested in mental health, emotional regulation, and resilience.

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